Andrews never cleared RGIII

[PennSkinsFan]

Dr. James Andrews is a it upset with Shanahan. Says he never cleared RGIII to return in Ravems game. Is this really much of a surprise? How could he possibly,clear him in 24 seconds. Shanny just flat out lied.

[SkinsGuru]

Dr. James Andrews is a it upset with Shanahan. Says he never cleared RGIII to return in Ravems game. Is this really much of a surprise? How could he possibly,clear him in 24 seconds. Shanny just flat out lied.

i just read that and it actually had me a bit pissed . . . as much as Shanny has done a lot of good things, this kind of thing cannot happen, especially with a player as special as RGIII . . . Andrews also said he was scared for RGIII to come back in the game against philly AND dallas . . .

[Spence]

Dr. James Andrews is a it upset with Shanahan. Says he never cleared RGIII to return in Ravems game. Is this really much of a surprise? How could he possibly,clear him in 24 seconds. Shanny just flat out lied.
Let's face it, Shanny lies all the time. Obviously, RG3 should not have gone back in that game considering he missed the next one entirely and hasn't looked right since.

[Seafin77]

So the docs don't really have the control of the situation as the NFL seems to pretend. How could a sideline doc tell you anything anyway, without diagnostic equipment? When I watched the Ravens game I thought it was strange that he went back in. Obviously, the knee was hurting and returning to the game was not going to improve things. You limp off and then go back in why? So you can be carried off later. Stupid. That still shot of his knee buckling on CNN will give you the creeps. So he had one surgery for a torn ACL at Baylor and this is the same knee. From what I see on the web repeat surgeries for second torn ACL's are more complicated and much less successful.
The Shanahans should have thought of the long range future of Robert Griffin and the Redskins. I hope to God this isn't a torn ACL. In any case, it looks like the end of the read option, but then again how many running QB's had long careers? None that I can think of.

S.

[Seafin77]

I didn't think this could get worse. Then I read this in Jason Reid's column at the Post :
"Shanahan would say he didn’t err. In fact, after speaking privately with Shanahan in his office Monday, I left convinced that, if Shanahan could do it all over again, he wouldn’t change a thing.

“I completely trust Robert,” Shanahan told me. “He has proved it to me.”

[SkinsGuru]

Dr. Andrews no back peddling . . . saying that Shanny's version of what happened in Baltimore is the correct version . . . see this: Source (PFT): (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/08/dr-james-andrews-mike-shanahan-didnt-lie-about-rg3s-knee/)


“Coach Shanahan didn't lie about it, and I didn't lie,” Andrews said. “I didn't get to examine [Griffin’s knee] because he came out for one play, didn't let us look at him and on the next play, he ran through all the players and back out onto the field. Coach Shanahan looks at me like, ‘Is he OK?’ and I give him the ‘Hi’ sign as in, ‘He’s running around, so I guess he’s OK.’ But I didn't get to check him out until after the game. It was just a communication problem. Heat of battle. I didn't get to tell him I didn't get to examine the knee. Mike Shanahan would never have put him out there at risk just to win a game.”

hmmm . . . seems to me that something is being hidden here . . . Thoughts??

[Seafin77]

I think that is back pedaling and just standard damage control. Everyone will be trying to cover their ass now. A doctor on the sidelines couldn't tell you much anyway, he has no way of knowing. I hope the NFL does something but they probably won't.

S.

[SkinsGuru]

I think that is back pedaling and just standard damage control. Everyone will be trying to cover their ass now. A doctor on the sidelines couldn't tell you much anyway, he has no way of knowing. I hope the NFL does something but they probably won't.

S.

yup . . . we need MRI machines in every locker room!! not sure what you can do . . . many players play injured

[Seafin77]

yup . . . we need MRI machines in every locker room!! not sure what you can do . . . many players play injured

I think we have learned that prudence demands more caution in such situations. Now whether Shanahan, RG3 or anyone else has learned is another story. But just consider the history of this situation, if RG3 had been taken out of the Ravens game earlier, the knee injury would not have become worse. With a week or two of rest he would likely would have been fine. "Playing hurt" is admirable and heroic but what's the point if the end result is even worse injury?

S.

[SkinsGuru]

I think we have learned that prudence demands more caution in such situations. Now whether Shanahan, RG3 or anyone else has learned is another story. But just consider the history of this situation, if RG3 had been taken out of the Ravens game earlier, the knee injury would not have become worse. With a week or two of rest he would likely would have been fine. "Playing hurt" is admirable and heroic but what's the point if the end result is even worse injury?

S.

i hear you . . . not sure that we know everything though . . . i think the injury in Baltimore caused more than a minor LCL sprain . . . he should have showed improvements each weak if that were the case and he seemed to get worse and his knee seemed more unstable . . . maybe he was just not allowing it to heal, but i feel there was already damage to the ACL, either known or unknown . . . maybe the scar tissue and so on from the last procedure he had in college was masking the ACL issue . . . maybe they seen it and decided since the knee was going to have to be rebuilt anyway so at RGIII's request they let him try to ride out the season (almost made it) . . . don't know for sure . . . probably won't . . . but either way all we can hope for now is a speedy recovery . . .

[Seafin77]

Yeah, you can't be sure. The doc who did the surgery on his knee at Baylor said it was hell trying to slow him down to do a proper rehab. So that's going to be a concen now. And from what RG3 is posting on his Facebook page, I don't think he has learned from the experience. I agree the LCL was probably damaged in Baltimore, it's just so hard to tell with all the games that are being played with this thing. Even the diagnostic equipment plays tricks.

S.

[BamaSkins]

What Andrews said the 2nd time looks to be correct from the way it played out during the game.
The first obvious thing we know. RG3 got hurt came to the sideline then went back in the next play.
2nd obvious thing we know is Dr Andrews did not look at his knee(there was no chance for him to in 30 secs).

Other than this most everything is just speculation.

I just hope he only comes back when 100%. I want him to rehab correctly and not rush it and be 100% when he officially plays in a game.

[SkinsGuru]

What Andrews said the 2nd time looks to be correct from the way it played out during the game.
The first obvious thing we know. RG3 got hurt came to the sideline then went back in the next play.
2nd obvious thing we know is Dr Andrews did not look at his knee(there was no chance for him to in 30 secs).

Other than this most everything is just speculation.

I just hope he only comes back when 100%. I want him to rehab correctly and not rush it and be 100% when he officially plays in a game.

i agree with this as well . . . i hope RGIII doesn't feel too threatened by Cousins as he may try to rush coming back so Cousins doesn't get a chance to showcase his talent . . . hope not . . . AND, what if RGIII stats the year on the PUP and Cousins tears it up during that first 6 weeks and has ungodly numbers like 115 QB rating and a 5 - 1 TD to INT ratio, not saying it will happen, but what if??

[headballcoach12]

If RGIII is not healthy. Why wouldnt you want Cousins to succeed?

[SkinsGuru]

If RGIII is not healthy. Why wouldn't you want Cousins to succeed?

if RGIII is not healthy you root for Cousins!! I am a Redskin fan first . . . all i as asking is what happens if Cousins plays and is just dominant, what do we do then with RGIII when he is healthy?? sit a dominating Cousins?? or keep RGIII on the bench?? . . . i realize this most likely will not be the case . . . just curious what if??

[Seafin77]

That would be a big question if it pans out that way. If Cousins does succeed it would be hard to argue that RG3 gets the job back automatically I think. I don't underestimate Cousins, I think he could be a good even great starter.

S.